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nenena ([personal profile] nenena) wrote2008-09-13 09:12 am

Clone Wars!!!!

Just saw Clone Wars, finally. LOVED IT. Now this is what a Star Wars movie should be: lots of action, just-barely-developed-enough-to-be-tolerable characters, at least minimally passable acting, lots of yay neato sci-fi space opera stuff, and lots of nifty Jedi Force-fueled shenanigans.

Granted, as with previous prequel films, the villainous "plot" was poorly thought out, and the military "strategy" employed by Anakin and others made no sense. I.E. the opening scene of the film. Unless I missed something, Anakin and Obi-Wan's BRILLIANT STRATEGY was to... attack the droids... and then attack the droids some more. Uh, that is not "strategy."

Anyway, things about the movie that rocked:

Ahsoka!!!

Ahsoka's backhanded lightsaber grip!!!

That vertical battle on Teth! Freakin' awesome! Reminded me Dead Fantasy II.

Badass Ventress was badass.

Cute baby Hutt was cute.

Non-wooden Anakin was non-wooden.

Rocking score by not-John-Williams was rocking.

Gay Hutt was... purple? Okay, seriously? There was a flaming homosexual Hutt with a lisp, a nasal effete Southern drawl, a feathered headpiece, and a purple body?!

Seriously?!

Oh, Lucas. That's almost as bad the Gungans.

Unrelated: I really really really need to catch up on the Expanded Universe again. Tahiri grew up to be a badass?! Freakin' Tahiri?! Awesome!

[identity profile] kalium-kx.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It was actually good?

My friend tried to convince me it was good..but i was kinda unfazed about it/=...
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
It was good!

As long as you're not expecting another A New Hope or anything. It works well for being exactly what it's supposed to be: a stand-alone Star Wars action adventure that doesn't suck. Bonus "good" comes from the addition of a couple new characters who are actually interesting. In my humble opinion.

[identity profile] lost-angelwings.livejournal.com 2008-09-13 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Clone Wars is awesome! :D

And Ahsoka completely pwns! I just rly hate how some guys keep saying she's a Mary Sue b/c OMG A GIRL CHAR IN A STAR WARS MOVIE THAT BEATS THE CRAP OUT OF THINGS AND IS A JEDI!?

>:O

The voice acting was also superior to the live acting in the non-animated movies. xDDD

I was annoyed at the "effeminate male char is evil" trope tho :( Not a good lesson to be affirming to the kids :|

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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
OMG yes the Mary Sue accusations set my teeth on edge. Ahsoka isn't super-special or extraordinary, other than the fact that she's young. She's about as competent as Anakin was when he was a Padawan in AotC. She's not sparklypoo. She's not perfect. She screws up, and she has real character flaws. Yes a big part of the story is "Anakin grows to grudgingly respect Ahsoka," and that's usually the trademark of a Sue, BUT. In this case it really was all about Anakin's character arc; the whole point of the movie was showing how Anakin matured, and of course learning to respect his Padawan is part of that.

I've heard people say that Ahsoka is a sue because a) she's a competent female and that is clearly extraordinary, b) she's an exotic-looking, overly-pretty alien (but ummmm it's Star Wars, yes?) and c) because Yoda and Obi-Wan and Rex and everybody totally love her. As for the last part, I don't see it. Yoda vetted for her, but he vets for lots of padawans. Obi-Wan didn't so much like Ahsoka herself as he was amused by how Anakin reacted to her. And Rex, well, Rex likes everybody who's on his side.

Argh. She is not a Sue!

[identity profile] lost-angelwings.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW!! She didn't even fight the Sith and kick their butts or nething! She lost to Ventress and Anakin had to rescue her. She's been trained as a Jedi since she was a child, it's not like she just showed up and was like "hay I'm 12 and have no training but I'm gonna be a Jedi k?"

I find it hilarious that ppl complain about her in a universe where male chars kill Sith lords while padawans, win pod races as a 10 year old, blow up giant battlecruisers as a 10 year old, blow up the death star as a farm boy, have the highest medichloran count EVAR EVAR EVAR, etc etc etc >:\

And you're absolutely right. This was about Anakin MATURING and accepting her. And all she did was complete a mission of ANAKIN'S planning! It's not like she made up her own plan against Anakin's orders, defeated all the Sith Lords and at the end rescues Anakin and Obi-Wan and they're all like OMG YOU ARE SO AWESOME. (And then Anakin dumps Padme for her xD)
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
I find it hilarious that ppl complain about her in a universe where male chars kill Sith lords while padawans, win pod races as a 10 year old, blow up giant battlecruisers as a 10 year old, blow up the death star as a farm boy, have the highest medichloran count EVAR EVAR EVAR, etc etc etc

Quote for truth.

[identity profile] the-terrible.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
This is one of the few positive reviews I've ever seen of this movie, and the ONLY enthusiastic one.

Despite being a major Star Wars fan, I have yet to see it myself.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Really? A couple of other people on my flist liked it.

I've read a lot of critical reviews of the film, and a major thread running through all of them was "oh noes, they made a Star Wars movie for kiddies!" And it absolutely is a deliberately kid-oriented film, but... come on. I, for one, am glad to see a Star Wars film that embraces what the original films did well: jedi awesomeness, big space battles, lots of stuff blowing up, and the childlike sense of wonder of a neophyte character who's experiencing the universe for the first time. And I'm glad that the film tosses aside the more adult-like things that we know Lucas can't do well, like "political intrigue" and "romance between anybody who is not Han or Leia."

[identity profile] lost-angelwings.livejournal.com 2008-09-14 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
I personally think that this was a pretty adult kids film too :D They showed the horrors of the war, and by giving the Clone troopers distinctive personalities it made me care more about them and when they're watching their comrades die in battle, it actually made me feel this was more than just disposable chars fighting more disposable chars.

And the kids thing adds to the FUN too! Space battles, a story that is tight and doesn't go off into weird tangents, heroic feats, good guys being good, bad guys being bad, and awesome lightsabre battles that have feeling behind them :D