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Fearful Symmetry.
So I realized that I've had this narrative kink for a while, but only just recently did I figure out how to articulate it. (Thank you, Thundercats reboot!)
I have this inexplicable love for stories in which the heroes find themselves possibly doomed to re-enact the tragic lives of their ancestors and/or past reincarnations, but then find some way at the last minute to reverse that fate.
I remember that Sailor Moon hit this kink in a big way when I was a teenager. Come to think of it, this trope shows up a LOT in other shoujo manga as well. Homestuck sets up the trope in the most literal way possible by having the trolls grow up in a culture where they're encouraged to follow the same life paths as their ancestors. There was even a thread of this in Avatar with the Roku/Sozin and Zuko/Aang parallels.
The 2011 Thundercats reboot is clearly moving in this direction as well. And yes, this post title is a direct reference to the way that Tygra's character arc is being set up to parallel both Tygus in the distant past (who is the only other tiger in the series so far) and Grune in the immediate past (who is a saber-toothed tiger, a fact that admittedly it took me a while to pick up on - and it's not like the writers were even being subtle about it, either!).
When I think about this trope, though, I can't help but notice that all of my favorite examples of it come from decidedly kid-oriented media. In fact, I'm having a really hard time coming up with any examples of it in sci-fi or fantasy stories geared toward an adult audience. Homestuck may be a possible exception, as it doesn't seem to be deliberately aimed at any age group in particular and has attracted a mixed teen and adult audience, but at the end of the day I still think it's a deliciously juvenile story that revels in its own immaturity, and it's definitely not "more or less for grown-ups" the same way that, say, something like Star Trek or a George R.R. Martin novel would be.
So... why is that, exactly? I dunno. Maybe it's inherently a juvenile trope?
Can anybody else think of any examples from not-so-kiddie-oriented media? The best that I've been able to come up with is possibly the original Star Wars trilogy, but it doesn't quite fit the bill because a) Luke struggling to not repeat his father's destiny is not the same as struggling to not repeat his distant ancestor and/or past reincarnation's destiny, and b) Star Wars was intended to appeal to both a kiddie and an adult audience at the same time, so it's not quite as "adult-oriented" as I'm looking for.
I have this inexplicable love for stories in which the heroes find themselves possibly doomed to re-enact the tragic lives of their ancestors and/or past reincarnations, but then find some way at the last minute to reverse that fate.
I remember that Sailor Moon hit this kink in a big way when I was a teenager. Come to think of it, this trope shows up a LOT in other shoujo manga as well. Homestuck sets up the trope in the most literal way possible by having the trolls grow up in a culture where they're encouraged to follow the same life paths as their ancestors. There was even a thread of this in Avatar with the Roku/Sozin and Zuko/Aang parallels.
The 2011 Thundercats reboot is clearly moving in this direction as well. And yes, this post title is a direct reference to the way that Tygra's character arc is being set up to parallel both Tygus in the distant past (who is the only other tiger in the series so far) and Grune in the immediate past (who is a saber-toothed tiger, a fact that admittedly it took me a while to pick up on - and it's not like the writers were even being subtle about it, either!).
When I think about this trope, though, I can't help but notice that all of my favorite examples of it come from decidedly kid-oriented media. In fact, I'm having a really hard time coming up with any examples of it in sci-fi or fantasy stories geared toward an adult audience. Homestuck may be a possible exception, as it doesn't seem to be deliberately aimed at any age group in particular and has attracted a mixed teen and adult audience, but at the end of the day I still think it's a deliciously juvenile story that revels in its own immaturity, and it's definitely not "more or less for grown-ups" the same way that, say, something like Star Trek or a George R.R. Martin novel would be.
So... why is that, exactly? I dunno. Maybe it's inherently a juvenile trope?
Can anybody else think of any examples from not-so-kiddie-oriented media? The best that I've been able to come up with is possibly the original Star Wars trilogy, but it doesn't quite fit the bill because a) Luke struggling to not repeat his father's destiny is not the same as struggling to not repeat his distant ancestor and/or past reincarnation's destiny, and b) Star Wars was intended to appeal to both a kiddie and an adult audience at the same time, so it's not quite as "adult-oriented" as I'm looking for.
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Heck, I've been watching Star Trek for as long as I can remember, TNG's opening theme and Patrick Stewart's intro narration are some of my earliest memories.
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As for Star Trek, yeah, I watched a ton of TNG and DS9 as a kid, too. I know that lots of kids watch Star Trek, and The Powers That Be are definitely savvy enough to market to that audience - I mean, that's probably why we have Star Trek lunch boxes and backpacks - but at the end of the day I think it's fair to point to a show like Star Trek and say "This is a show for grown-ups despite having an incidental kid audience," the same way that it's fair to point at cartoons like Thundercats or Avatar and say "These are shows for kids despite them being good enough to have an adult audience and/or having some content that's clearly meant to appeal to an adult audience." The same can definitely be said for a lot of kid-oriented anime series too, from Sailor Moon to all of the Shounen Jump titles. And most Disney movies. And Dreamworks animated films. And the various Star Wars cartoons. Etc, etc.
Mmmmm, it's really hard to talk about "kid-oriented media" versus "media that's more-or-less for grown-ups" without adding a ton of disclaimers as to what we really mean when we try to label each category. Siiiigh. But in the end I think that most of us have a pretty solid sense of what media is intended primarily for kids versus what's intended primarily for adults. I mean, the cast of Star Trek never rode around in a giant cat-shaped car that they called "the Thundertank." Just saying.
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Nope, they sure didn't.
Also, thanks to Ohkubo, I can no longer hear or see the word 'symmetry' without covering up a smirk. Todd Haberkorn may also be responsible for this too.