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nenena ([personal profile] nenena) wrote2010-05-22 09:01 am

Just leaving this here before I run off to work.

Repelsteeltju thinks it's okay to call me a "raging cunt."

In case anybody still had any doubts about his true colors.

This is the anon comment in question.

Public post, because I'm sure that Reeps has nothing to hide and is totes going to stand by his words, amirite?

ETA for context, because - as an anonymous pointed out - this probably should be explained: Repelsteeltju has a history of trolling and harassing Soul Eater fans on livejournal, but he likes to insist that he's perfectly innocent of any wrongdoing when he interacts with people on other forums. So this is a public calling-out. From past wanks he's made it clear that his reputation means a lot to him. So he needs to own up to this shit.

ETA again: For the public record, here are all of the IP addresses used by Failtroll (not Repelsteeltju, but the other guy):

64.237.166.42
65.23.210.216
65.23.210.230
65.23.221.112 - used the most often.

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-22 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
not trying to be offensive here, but why do you make posts pointing out any negative comments you get? Are you hoping people will rush to your aid, or do the comments bother you so much that it's worth posting about?


It just seems... hypocritical.

[identity profile] atelierjoh.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not going to assume to know how [livejournal.com profile] nenena thinks or anything, but it might have something to do with the fact that if you let something like racism and misogyny fly under the radar or let somebody get away with it, it just passes on the idea that it's "okay". Which it's totally not.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't make posts pointing out "any" negative comments that I get. I get trolled quite frequently - it happens when you post about srs bzns issues - but I only focus the spotlight on a particular comment when there's a damn good reason to do so.

In this case, Repelsteeltju has a history of trolling and harassing Soul Eater fans on livejournal, but he likes to insist that he's perfectly innocent of any wrongdoing when he interacts with people on other forums. So this is a public calling-out. From past wanks he's made it clear that his reputation means a lot to him. So he needs to own up to this shit.

Again: I don't call out people unless there's a damn good reason to do so.

You'll notice that I often edit my posts to point out particularly funny, interesting, or illuminating comments as well. Basically, I like to highlight comments for a lot of different reasons. Sometimes mocking a particularly hilarious negative comment, or pointing out misogyny in a comment, can be among those reasons.

ETA: Also, what [livejournal.com profile] atelierjoh said.
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[identity profile] aiwatan.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, Repelsteeltju. Since you've made it clear that you don't like me, why the hell are you reading my journal in the first place?

THIS. Is what I was wondering since the first reply. And damn, he can start babbling shit out of nowhere and has to shut up precisely in the interesting part.

Cultural fail? who cares? we are Occidental!!!!11
Different cultures are nonsense. So go, move your ass and write a recap of a manga, which happens to be written in the core of one of those stupid cultures who care about how clothes are folded.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
write a recap of a manga, which happens to be written in the core of one of those stupid cultures who care about how clothes are folded.

Ah ha ha ha ha yes. SO MUCH THIS.

Pffffft, Japanese culture isn't important! It's a total waste of time to learn about or talk about Japanese culture, amirite? I mean, in the wise words of Repelsteeltju himself, "what the hell do we care?" It's not like it's disrespectful to consume Japanese comics and poo-poo the importance of Japanese culture at the same time. And it's certainly not important to know anything at all about Japanese culture in order to understand the cultural references and puns in Soul Eater--

Oh wait.

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[identity profile] wodalzz.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
To be really honest, I can't think of any positive reason why anonym comments even exist on livejournal. You can't just say:'I agree with that anon!' if you can't even identify him/her with an account or something, that feels just SO AWKWARD for fellow LJers(or it's just me). You can't even hurt a bit of an anons feelings because it doesn't have an identity thus no pride to be seen, and because it can be anybody.

So I am allowed to think that the anon above here may be Creeps who just logged of and decided to comment anonym to keep his pride.

(And ofcourse by saying this it can hurt Creeps the LJer, but I don't think all too sympathic about him anyway haha.Comments turning into flaming the whole time makes it looks like he's doing it on purpose so yeah... but I'm not going to flame here to let you know, okay? Those will turn out into private messages)

I'm not giving Nenena aid by viewing this entry based on a negative comment, I'm supporting her because the comment indeed bothers her much.
And if something(may be a comment or message) bothers someone, or hurt a little of one's feelings, then who wouldn't seek for support from friends or others to cheer up? there's nothing wrong with that, that's natural.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
To be really honest, I can't think of any positive reason why anonym comments even exist on livejournal.

On my journal, personally?

I allow anonymous commenting because some of the posts that I write attract readers from outside livejournal (i.e. the Soul Eater recaps), and 99% of the anonymous comments that I get on those posts are just people geeking out and having fun. I like being able to interact with people outside of my usual LJ circle, and I assume that the anons like participating in those posts as well. I'm not going to let the 1% of rotten anons that sometimes show up ruin it for everybody else.

Now, this is only true for my personal journal, which is basically the same as my personal blog. A community like [livejournal.com profile] shibusen is a totally different context. I opposed anonymous commenting on [livejournal.com profile] shibusen because a livejournal community isn't a personal blog. It functions much more like a forum, where people can introduce themselves when they join, get to know each other, and are expected to follow a whole different set of written community rules and unspoken community norms. In that context, being able to post anonymously and speak without consequences is unfair to the rest of the community. Members of the community are judged by how well they adhere to the norms of the community, for better or for worse, but anonymous commenters can participate without any consequences to their reputations - again, unfair. Also, whereas on my personal journal I have thus far had mostly lovely anons, on [livejournal.com profile] shibusen we have thus far had almost nothing but trolling anons, so again: context.

So I am allowed to think that the anon above here may be Creeps who just logged of and decided to comment anonym to keep his pride.

You can think that, but I'd rather not that we start throwing around accusations without any proof to back it up. Repelsteeltju has said more than enough shit with his name signed to it, so that's what he really needs to be held accountable for.

I'm not giving Nenena aid by viewing this entry based on a negative comment, I'm supporting her because the comment indeed bothers her much.

It doesn't bother me in the sense that it hurts my feelings. My feelings aren't hurt at all. But racism bothers me - as it should bother any human beings worth the air that they breathe - and misogyny bothers me, too. Not personally, but ethically, if that makes any sense.

Er, I hope I'm making myself relatively clear.

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[identity profile] corinn.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't think of any positive reason why anonym comments even exist on livejournal.

In addition to allowing people without accounts to comment, they can help establish a safe place to speak about sensitive issues. For example, some people are uncomfortable talking about personal mental health issues with their names attached. Others may have what they perceive to be a very stupid question about an inflammatory topic, or don't want to be flamed for talking about an inflammatory topic in general. Sometimes people don't want their FList to know they frequent certain LJ comms, hold certain views, or engage in porny activities in fandom. This is the big reason why there are so many anon kink memes.

Anon trolling is an unfortunate side effect, but worth it in my eyes. I've been helped while anon and given help to others who were anon, so I'll put up with trolls. Trolls are mostly amusing, anyway, even if they can be rage-inducing.


You can't even hurt a bit of an anons feelings because it doesn't have an identity thus no pride to be seen, and because it can be anybody.

Not that's visible to anyone else but the anon sitting and reading comments. I've been hurt while anon. If I go anon, it's usually to try to avoid hurt in the first place. I find I'm less hurt if hurt while anon because it doesn't feel like the harmful comment is ~personal~ as in "This person doesn't like me!"

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I can't think of any positive reason why anonym comments even exist on livejournal.

Two words: KINK MEME :3

[identity profile] the-sun-is-up.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
UGH HE IS SUCH A CREEPER. I think it's the passive-agressive smiley-faces that really get me -- they just make me want to reach through my computer screen and punch him in the face.

You know, you could just ban him from your lj.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Six years of being trolled and I have yet to ban a single person from this journal. They always shut up and slink away eventually.

(I've found that sometimes the trolls that I get want to be banned because in their minds that means that they've "won." NGL, I kinda love watching them go apeshit and self-destruct when I deny them that.)

(another) different anon =)

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[identity profile] repelsteeltju.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Selective quoting is an art you have obviously mastered to a impressive degree, nenena. But If you feel the urge to quote me in your journal. I'd at least expect you to have the decency to quote me in full. Instead of; bwaa~ Repelsteeltje was mean to mean to me bwaa~. Ah who am I kidding...

Anyway here's the full sentence.
“Or you could simply state your reasoning again and not be a raging cunt about it?”

This is the first time I'm mentioned in a blog that I did not help create, so in a way I'm honored.

Can't help but to enjoy the irony of sweet nenena being horribly insulted that I said that she was acting like a cunt to an admirer of her. Seeing as it's like sorta like her trademark to write snarky remarks about pretty much everything. Just saying.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Selective quoting is an art you have obviously mastered to a impressive degree, nenena.

I linked directly to your full comment. There's no "selective quoting" here.

Anyway here's the full sentence. “Or you could simply state your reasoning again and not be a raging cunt about it?”

You think that this changes what you said? You think that this is helping your case? Christ. Grow a pair and own up to what you said and how you behave online. Your level of denial is embarrassing. I'm getting contact embarrassment over here.

sweet nenena

Sexist and passive-agressive.

acting like a cunt to an admirer of her.

That was not an admirer. That was a troll, who made a trollish comment, and who later in the thread copped to being a troll, not a fan.

Seeing as it's like sorta like her trademark to write snarky remarks about pretty much everything.

I don't make sexist comments. I don't make misogynistic comments. I don't make racist jokes. I don't say things that are homophobic or transphobic. I try my damndest to avoid ablist comments.

I would never, ever call somebody a cunt.

I do snark things. I like to make jokes. I sometimes mock people for what they say and do, but never for their race or sex or whatever. I try as much as possible to avoid being sexist, racist, or homophobic when I make my jokes. Do you not understand the difference, here? Apparently not.

Edited for typo.
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[identity profile] furikku.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
News flash duder there is no context in which saying "raging cunt" is OK except for, "And they called me a 'raging cunt' and that is why they are an asshole."

facetious comment is facetious

[identity profile] corinn.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Gosh, Nena, don't you see that he's not calling you a cunt, he's warning you that you sound like one? There's obviously a world of difference between those two extremes! He's just trying to help! You need to watch your tone! Be polite! You don't want people to think you really are a raging cunt, do you? Besides, you're wasting all that indignant energy on something no one cares about. Talk about something entertaining.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-22 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess Zombie!Katara just isn't entertaining enough for y'all.

[identity profile] kamdensl.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I fail to see how calling out a troll for saying racism was irrelevant equates to you being a "raging c***." Oh well, logic doesn't apply when someone's looking to pick a fight (and it seems he trys to start a fight whenever he even mentions you).

As for the "The Last Airbender" fail, I just can't comprehend how a crew with all of the funding and resources of the movie industry would be so incompetent.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand how they could be so incompetent, either. What's sad is that the creators of the animated series, who had so much less to work with in terms of funding and resources, managed to do such a fantastically better job.

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[identity profile] pheonee.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
This is very much so amusing like wow. Sorry you have to put up with dipshits like this, but you handle them like a pro, and it's really bringing in the lulz. <3

Also, because I am a boring person, I'mma just stick some random rebuttals here instead of clogging up your inbox with "pheonee has left a(nother) silly comment on your entry" emails. >_>

Either way, [livejournal.com profile] repelsteeltju is, from what I've seen, a huge asshat. And I make this (possibly unfair) assumption based on his sexism, racism, dismissal, entitlement, and condescending manner, not because you told me so.

Yes the anon did not ask very nice but so what?

...so, the anon didn't ask very nice. Nenena isn't obligated by law or morality to deliver (awesomesauce, BTW) recaps as soon as the chapter comes out. The anon was being entitled and rude. Anyone is within their rights to call an entitled, rude person out on that.

Loosen up will ya? What the hell do we care about the way people fold their darn clothes?

But I guess that that is exactly what makes me a: “racistic passive aggressive troll”, right?


YES. YES IT IS.

I just...I don't even...

My culture is being bastardized. This is Paramount looking my culture in the face and deciding that it is not worth bothering about. I find this dismissal hurtful. How much more is there to say?

There is a difference between doing poor research and intentionally being racist.

Sure there's a difference between unintentional racism and intentional racism. It's still racism.

Just like (a more extreme or at least more immediately noticeable example) there's a difference between murder and manslaughter, but someone still ends up dead.



I was being sarcastic. -.-'

Which is precisely why you were passive-aggressive.

I LIKE JAPANSE CULTURE IN GENERAL BUT FAIL TO SEE; HOW YOU FOLD YOUR DARN KIMIO MAKES A DIFFERENCE. I'M SORRY IF THAT MAKES ME RACIST OR W/E.

I can't actually come up with anything in response to this that isn't ANGRY KEYSMASH OF RAGE, so here you go:

adsfgj'sd';sfalkjg;klasd;ksdg';askjasdl;k

Not caring about other people's cultures is racist. Racism is bad. If you know what you are doing is racist, don't fucking do it. It's not easy, it never has been--but it's possible! I promise!

CALLING SOMONE OUT ON HIS/HER BEHAVIOUR IS NOT SEXIST.

WHEN THEY ARE BEHAVING PERFECTLY REASONABLY AND YOU ARE USING A GENDERED PEJORATIVE IT IS.

IF YOU WHERE A GUY (OR IF YOU'D LIKE THAT BETTER)I'D CALL YOU A 'PRICK' FOR TALKING TO OTHERS LIKE THAT. AGAIN IT'S NOT MISOGYNISTIC. IT'S JUST ANOTHER CURSEWORD.

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Using gendered pejoratives is sexist.

If you would alter your slur based on a person's sex (instead of any linguistic nuance you percieve your gendered pejorative to have), that makes you sexist. SRY TO SAY.

About all this trolling talk. The one that is trolling is none other than the great Nenena-sama.

With trolling being "stirring shit just for the lulz", and Nenena doing no shit-stirring for the lulz at all, your point has managed to sail over my head entirely.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Win comment is made of win. ^___^ Thank you for your comment and for sharing your perspective here.

Yeah, I'm still jawdropping about him accusing me of being the troll. He's the one who showed up in my journal just to attempt to insult me. Uh, isn't it obvious who the real troll is, here?

Then again, he apparently still doesn't understand that the anonymous in the other post was deliberately trolling, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised by his confusion.

[identity profile] meni-tan.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
the people that start fights on the internet are people that can't start fights in real life. (I'm profiling with the info I got. So I could be wrong but this is what I got out of it.)they maybe the following:
a) a scrub
b) unpopular (no friends and what not)
c) bullied (a lot!)

with this pent up anger they go on internet and find some poor blogger to ragg on until they feel better.

a way to solve this is get out more. Play a sport! Go places! Make friends! Enjoy live!

(hmmmm.... I have a feeling I'm going to get yelled at for this)

[identity profile] sno-oki.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE US OF HAVING NO LIFE?! YOU STUPID PERSON! (Joking!)

Why would anyone yell at you for this (apart from a bit of poorly executed humor, as seen above)? I agree with you - there's unresolved anger, and abusing other people, whether online or in real life, is not the way to get rid of it. Go punch a punching bag or something...geeze.

[identity profile] corinn.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
(This isn't yelling, these are thinky-thoughts. If it reads like yelling, I apologize; I should really get to bed and don't always word things well when so tired.)

Depends what kind of fights you're talking about. Your description doesn't fit with (or has unfortunate implications about) people who call someone else out on their problematic behavior. They often get derailed by accusations like "You're just looking to start a fight!"

You're forgetting the arrogant entitlement factor, namely, "I am RIGHT and you will NEVER convince me otherwise no matter WHAT Earth logic you and a hundred others throw at me!" and/or the injured entitlement factor, namely, "How DARE you imply that the things I say reflect poorly upon my character! I'm not a bad person, so things I say can't be bad!"

Really, the biggest problem I see in snarly Internet personalities is the potentially explosive combination of arrogance + entitlement + foot-in-mouth disease + willful ignorance + lack of empathy + knee-jerk defensiveness (often through offensiveness, in both senses of the word).

Of course, then you have the trolls who are just faking it all for the lulz.

This really makes me wonder about the demographic breakdown of wanky trolls. Something to amuse me when I'm bored.

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-25 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey Nenena, it's the troll again...umm....you got the wrong person lol.

As much as I love trolling, I can't let other people take blame. I am not repelsteeltju, though I do thank him for his comments.
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[identity profile] nenena.livejournal.com 2010-05-25 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I know that you're not Repelsteeltju. That was obvious from the beginning.

This post is about Reeps, not about you.

I think it's hilarious, though, that this is the third time you've admitted to trolling and Repelsteeltju still is trying to argue "OMG THAT ANON WASN'T TROLLING YOU!!!!"

If anything, I tip my hat to you, good sir, for bringing the lulz and for causing Repelsteeltju to very publicly blow his gasket about it. Reeps has been hiding his flaming behind a thin veil of anonymity for a long time, but now that he's finally signed his name to his shit it's out there for the whole world to see. So again, I thank you for that. It was about time that Reeps stopped getting away with continually playing the innocent after all.

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(Anonymous) 2010-05-29 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
U MD?